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#41 m1 tanker

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 04:51 PM

Also the reason the B-17 might be able to survive a attack from the ME 262's 30mm cannons were because they were MK 108s, if the HO 229 was mass produced, B-17s would almost never survive a attack from the HO 229 because it had the better MK 103s instead of the MK 108s. People would sometimes refer to the MK 108 which the 262 had, as firing little grenades.
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Posted 11 November 2015 - 05:26 PM

Also the reason the B-17 might be able to survive a attack from the ME 262's 30mm cannons were because they were MK 108s, if the HO 229 was mass produced, B-17s would almost never survive a attack from the HO 229 because it had the better MK 103s instead of the MK 108s. People would sometimes refer to the MK 108 which the 262 had, as firing little grenades.

Here us where logic comes.

Because the ME262 had 4x 30 mm cannons, it didn't mean the 30 mm could deal huge impact onto a aircraft. The German 30 mm standard rounds didn't really did their role as a cannon shell, because 30-40% of the times, it 1. Missed their target 2. So so rate of fire made the time the cannon be on sight on the right moment after firing 3. Didn't do any important structural damage, it just went through the wing or fuselage and don't do nothing then go through like a armour piercing round or simply get ducked onto the aircraft.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 08:53 PM

Here us where logic comes.
Because the ME262 had 4x 30 mm cannons, it didn't mean the 30 mm could deal huge impact onto a aircraft. The German 30 mm standard rounds didn't really did their role as a cannon shell, because 30-40% of the times, it 1. Missed their target 2. So so rate of fire made the time the cannon be on sight on the right moment after firing 3. Didn't do any important structural damage, it just went through the wing or fuselage and don't do nothing then go through like a armour piercing round or simply get ducked onto the aircraft.

That was the MK 108, which as I said people said the 108s fired rounds that were like the speed of a little grenade being shot at, the MK 103 could fire as fast and were better in almost(or in all)every respect. It could go through two or maybe even 3 B17s, but the MG 151 would get the job done easier then the 108 and 103, because it wouldn't go through the B17 and do nothing and it was accurate and was at the same powerful, but still the velocity of round wouldn't make the round fo through the b17, instead it will 80% of the time explode.
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Posted 12 November 2015 - 05:06 AM

That was the MK 108, which as I said people said the 108s fired rounds that were like the speed of a little grenade being shot at, the MK 103 could fire as fast and were better in almost(or in all)every respect. It could go through two or maybe even 3 B17s, but the MG 151 would get the job done easier then the 108 and 103, because it wouldn't go through the B17 and do nothing and it was accurate and was at the same powerful, but still the velocity of round wouldn't make the round fo through the b17, instead it will 80% of the time explode.

keep in mind the MK 108 jammed a lot.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 05:40 PM

keep in mind the MK 108 jammed a lot.

Yeah, but I wasn't saying it never did, the MK 103 is better


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 06:58 PM

Yeah, but I wasn't saying it never did, the MK 103 is better

totally, 20 mm are more trustful than the 30mm and American 37mm.

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 07:11 PM

totally, 20 mm are more trustful than the 30mm and American 37mm.

The MK 103 is a 30mm cannon.... The 20mm MG 151 is good and is as reliable as the MK 103 which is really reliable.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 08:09 PM

The MK 103 is a 30mm cannon.... The 20mm MG 151 is good and is as reliable as the MK 103 which is really reliable.

idk....

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 01:08 AM

idk....


Or you dont care?
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Posted 15 November 2015 - 07:40 AM

Or you dont care?

I meant to say, I am not so sure about that...

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Posted 15 November 2015 - 08:02 AM

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 12:22 AM

Simply put: If you want to shoot an aircraft down, AIM CAREFULLY!!!
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Posted 16 November 2015 - 04:55 AM

Simply put: If you want to shoot an aircraft down, AIM CAREFULLY!!!

It isn't about Aiming carefully, it is about the equipment.

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 05:02 AM

Ok.
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Posted 16 November 2015 - 01:34 PM

It isn't about Aiming carefully, it is about the equipment.

Great aim with crappy equipment or poor aim with high-tech equipment?

Ask yourself: is the equipment really that bad?
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Posted 16 November 2015 - 07:13 PM

Great aim with crappy equipment or poor aim with high-tech equipment?

Ask yourself: is the equipment really that bad?

take for example, a tank cannon that have many failures, is it about the skills or the machinery?

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Posted 22 November 2015 - 07:06 PM

It's about getting the right resources and the right people!
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:55 AM

It's about getting the right resources and the right people!

and the right plans!


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Posted 07 December 2015 - 01:09 PM

and the right plans!

and very good training..


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:36 PM

Just make sure you have real guns, not steroids.....

A little joke, if you get it.
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