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#1 ManofSteel2018

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 08:37 AM

The M163 Vulcan Air Defense System (VADS)  is a highly powered Self Propelled Anti air tank that uses an M113 tank chassis.Its main weapon is the 20mm M61 Vulcan rotary cannon. Its engine is a General Motors 6V53, 6 cylinder two stroke diesel with 212 Hp and a weight of 14 tons enable it  to go to top speeds of 40mph. 

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#2 ManofSteel2018

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 08:59 AM

Another variant of the M113 is the SIDAM 25. The SIDAM 25 is an Italian Self Propelled Anti Air Gun (SPAAG). Its armament is 4x25mm Auto-cannons  250px-SIDAM-IT.JPG



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Posted 18 July 2018 - 03:56 PM

The m163 would stand no chance in the game, the m163 was designed to engage infantry it wasnt even designed to engage aicraft either, the soviet shilka would fare better in tank engagements.

For The Sidam it would be interesting to see in game, the autocannons are capable of penning some armor
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Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:53 PM

Although the m163 is a anti-aircraft vehicle. But it is most capable for firing at infantries as well. So in my opinion this vehicle has no chance to destroy any ifv, MBT, tank-destroyer, etc.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 04:04 AM

finally a AA tank for modern US tank tree.



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Posted 20 July 2018 - 06:19 AM

finally a AA tank for modern US tank tree.

Actually the M163 VADS has been put out of service ever since the gulf war and has been replaced with the Bradley and m1097 avengers which are just SAM missiles. The m163 VADS has rarely even seen action during the time it was which in service

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#7 Aditya sunani

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 07:35 PM

Actually the M163 VADS has been put out of service ever since the gulf war and has been replaced with the Bradley and m1097 avengers which are just SAM missiles. The m163 VADS has rarely even seen action during the time it was which in service


It has a point of view in the battlefield. Because those tanks which are seen in the battlefield or not, builded prototypes too. The developers offers for them. Because every machine is design for kill other machine! But when we talk about this vehicle M163-VAD, although this was design for AA batteries, but it is most capable for targeting enemy troops or infantries rather than airplanes, helicopters.
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Posted 21 July 2018 - 07:58 PM

It has a point of view in the battlefield. Because those tanks which are seen in the battlefield or not, builded prototypes too. The developers offers for them. Because every machine is design for kill other machine! But when we talk about this vehicle M163-VAD, although this was design for AA batteries, but it is most capable for targeting enemy troops or infantries rather than airplanes, helicopters.

It has a damn radar for a reason!.. to fight airplanes and helicopters rather than infantry

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 09:03 PM

The M163 main Cannon is a 20mm Vulcan rotary Cannon the very same used on the F-22 Raptor and some other fighter jets.So I'm pretty sure if that Cannon was put on the F-22,then don't you think that it was meant to destroy enemy aircraft? The Vulcan Cannon was also used on A-10 Warthog (which is a tankbuster) so that pretty much concludes the fact that it was meant to Destroy enemy aircraft.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 11:42 AM

The M163 main Cannon is a 20mm Vulcan rotary Cannon the very same used on the F-22 Raptor and some other fighter jets.So I'm pretty sure if that Cannon was put on the F-22,then don't you think that it was meant to destroy enemy aircraft? The Vulcan Cannon was also used on A-10 Warthog (which is a tankbuster) so that pretty much concludes the fact that it was meant to Destroy enemy aircraft.

the A-10 Warthog used the GAU-8 Avenger which was a 30mm gun which was a different gun from the vulcan even the GAU-8 Avenger could only take out a T64 from the sides or the rear. Plus even if the Vulcan was actually capable of engaging aircraft, ingame it would be virtually useless.
The AA meta ingame has gone and died in 1.22, the only aircraft that you can take out most of the time is helicopters (which even normal tanks have a pretty easy time taking out) becuase jets are impossible to engage in update 2.0.(*Note that Modern jets dont even have "armor") and m163 vulcan is still basically useless against armored targets.

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Posted 28 July 2018 - 04:46 PM

If this cant be added then why is the ZSU-23-4 shilka even in the game? The gun size is almost the same size. The main difference between the two weapon systems is that the M163 uses a 7 barrel rotary cannon and not the 4x23mm autocannons



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Posted 28 July 2018 - 06:08 PM

If this cant be added then why is the ZSU-23-4 shilka even in the game? The gun size is almost the same size. The main difference between the two weapon systems is that the M163 uses a 7 barrel rotary cannon and not the 4x23mm autocannons

a small change in size still makes a huge difference, not only that but also ammunition counts as well. The best rounds the shilka could muster which is the APDS-T could pen 30mm of armor which is adequate enough to be in game meanwhile the m163 VAD's best ammo which is the M940 could only pen 12.5mm and note that the armor of the t92 (which is the most common opponent shilkas may encounter)in real life is 31.7mm which is just enough for the shilka to chew through its armor. 12.7mm pen is not going to cut it.

Edited by EquablezMonsterz, 28 July 2018 - 06:57 PM.

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